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Ars Poetica - October 2006

A little Bukowski?

October 17th 2006 08:38
As the poems go into the thousands you
realize that you've created very
little.

Charles Bukowski ©

yes, yes
yes, yes

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Comment by LaurenD

October 17th 2006 10:42
Oh my, Lily, Buk's one of my favorites!

Great stuff!

LaurenD

Comment by Homer Joyce

October 17th 2006 10:44
If i wasn't so busy living like Bukowski did ... I'd take an interest in me ...

Homer ...

Comment by Lily

October 17th 2006 10:54


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Lauren D,

grrrreat, another Buk fan.. smiles.. I could probably do a whole blog just on him, i've read so much...

A Lambrusco for you for being my first reply...

~Lily

Comment by Lily

October 17th 2006 10:57


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Homer,

Bukowski was a genius in my books, and I love to read him; as i do you...

~Lily

Comment by Homer Joyce

October 17th 2006 11:38
Lily,

I wasn't aware that you'd ever read me ...

Was that an epiphany or a revelation?

Or was it just me drowning in my own drunken stupour? ...

I need some enlightenment here Lily ...

The lights have been turned out ...

Please open your petals to the sun and splay at least a sliver of light upon me ...

Homer ...

Comment by Lily

October 17th 2006 11:44


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ohhh you're so cheeky.. now go to bed... lol

~Lily aka ~ak

Comment by Homer Joyce

October 17th 2006 11:54
Lily (ak?) ...

How can I go to bed when I don't own a bed?

I'm going to floor soon ok?

Na, stuff it ...

I'm going to sit up all night in defiance ...

H (d) x y? z?


Comment by LaurenD

October 17th 2006 12:02
OK, a little Charles Bukowski to sleep by... I have had this stuck to my computer for over 10 years. Wherever my computer goes, this goes...

'ice for eagles'

i keep remembering the horses
under the moon
i keep remembering feeding the horses
sugar
white oblongs of sugar
more like ice,
and they had heads like
eages
bald heads that could bite and
did not.

the horses were more real than
my father
more real than god
and they could have stepped on my
feet but they didn't.
they could have done all kinds of horrors
but they didn't.

i was almost 5
but i have not forgotten yet;
o my god they were strong and good
those red tongues slobbering
out of their souls.

Comment by Lily

October 17th 2006 12:23


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(((d))) really? you claimin to not know me... i'll remind you in the morning .. no all nighters, you'll already be asleep by the time i finish typing (am sorry bout the bed reference)

LaurenD, i haven't read this one; so thank you; this one is good for the soul ..

~Lily

Comment by Justin

October 18th 2006 01:13
My favourite Bukowski poem is called "Bluebird".

there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I'm too tough for him,
I say, stay in there, I'm not going
to let anybody see
you.

there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I pur whiskey on him and inhale
cigarette smoke
and the whores and the bartenders
and the grocery clerks
never know that
he's in there.

there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I'm too tough for him,
I say,
stay down, do you want to mess
me up?
you want to screw up the
works?
you want to blow my book sales in
Europe?

there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I'm too clever, I only let him out
at night sometimes
when everybody's asleep.
I say, I know that you're there,
so don't be
sad.
then I put him back,
but he's singing a little
in there, I haven't quite let him die
and we sleep together like that
with our
secret pact
and it's nice enough to
make a man
weep, but I don't
weep, do you?

Comment by Homer Joyce

October 18th 2006 04:57
Justin ...

That's what alcoholism has done to me ... I can't remember writing that poem ...

Homer ...

JJ = (Just Joking) ...


Comment by Lily

October 18th 2006 12:06


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Justin,

'but I'm too clever, I only let him out
at night sometimes
when everybody's asleep.'

that's my favourite part, another one i haven't read!!. .and here's me claiming to have 'read so much' .. thanks for the new Buk's .. LaurenD and Justin, more more!!

(d) the tenderness of Buk underneath his tough exterior, is what compels me about him, i relate so much to this poem, to his life...

did i mention more Bukowski, peoplez?

cheers,
~Lily

burps, a lady like one, of course...






Comment by spain01

October 18th 2006 20:27


Juan Carlos
spain again
While your'e about it
Viva l'difference
Fire News Blog
Cities dying of thirst.
Here's a little wit on Shelley just to boost your post

PB Shelley died in the sea
He was poor on breast stroke
Good on rhyme
All they remember is a wife or three
And a copy of Frankenstein.

Juan

Comment by Lily

October 18th 2006 20:33


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Juan Carlos,

i know naught about Shelley, but i do now; 3 wives?however did he find the time! .. perhaps he should have had some swimming lessons...

Thanks for the booster, rooster....

~Lily


Comment by Lily

October 18th 2006 20:36


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for the Buk fans....

8 Count

from my bed
I watch
3 birds
on a telephone
wire.
one flies
off.
then
another.
one is left,
then
it too
is gone.
my typewriter is
tombstone
still.
and I am
reduced to bird
watching.
just thought I'd
let you
know,
fucker.

Charles Bukowski
© Linda Bukowski



Comment by spain01

October 18th 2006 20:50


Juan Carlos
spain again
While your'e about it
Viva l'difference
Fire News Blog
Cities dying of thirst.
Yes I really think that Bukowski added a measure to anti-literature which has really not been appreciaed until now. The reference to Shelley refers to his sexual proclivities generally, the marriage of a young wife into whose bed he seems to have invited his friends. His second wife may have been shared around but the little poem is ironic in that it was she who wrote Frankenstein. Boost on, madame, boost on.

Comment by Lily

October 18th 2006 22:23


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Now there's a lady with a fascinating life story....
as for Buk, the honesty in his work is his most appealing...... the people in the 'know' of the day couldn't handle his wild bohemian style...

write on...

~Lily






Comment by spain01

October 19th 2006 00:05


Juan Carlos
spain again
While your'e about it
Viva l'difference
Fire News Blog
Cities dying of thirst.
This is it. Somehow we expect our great artists to be nice. We recoil when we hear that Pushkin has the pox but we should celebrate the tumultuous life.

Comment by Justin

October 19th 2006 00:46
I remember seeing a documentary on Bukowski a month or so ago and in it he was notoriously aggressive about his wives or girlfriends having sex with other men. While he enjoyed it - unsure whether this was done at the same time - with hookers and groupies, he became almost violent towards his partners if suspected (which he usually did) kicking them and threatening to get his lawyer onto them, all the while calling them sluts and whores.

So, he's not particuarly the nicest man or any kind of gentleman but his art speaks for itself and rare is it that artists while being sensitive, aren't the knights in shining armour fans think (want) them to be.

Comment by Scarlett

October 19th 2006 15:00


Dessert
Love the pic!! haha! Did you draw that yourself?

Comment by Lily

October 20th 2006 04:10


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spaIn01, Justin & Scarlett..

Sorry to have put you all on the same boat, but i'm a taddy tad short on time today....

spain01, I've never expected any of the 'great' (to some, not others) artists to be nice; from what i've read; the majority of them have had extremely difficult lives, and many didn't make it. It's difficult to be nice at the best of times, let alone with a head full of junk. I think they did well to push past the angst and create the body of works they did.

Like Justin said, 'his art speaks for itself'.. a goal i hope to achieve in my dabblings, eh mayhaps some day.

The drawing is by Bukowski himself Scarlett, I think it's precious in it's simplicity. Someone may well hunt me down and tell me to take it off at some point, but oh well..

Thanks for popping in you guys/gal

~Lily


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